Chipping Campden is where the Cotswold Way begins. It’s an ancient footpath that goes all the way to Bath. My favorite pub along the way was the Crown & Trumpet, in Broadway.
In London, I like the White Horse, on Parson’s Green.
Probably not burgers though (but there are some exceptions).
Though the fried chicken shops of London originally sprang up around the Jamaican communities, most of them are now owned and operated by Bangladeshi families. Much like curry houses they avoid beef (and of course pork) simply because everyone eats chicken and lamb without regard to religion (if it’s killed the right way which, trust me, in London it usually is).
There are some real treats in London, from the (almost) universally excellent curry in Brick Lane to some wonderful African and Caribbean cafes in Brixton and up the Seven Sisters Road in Tottenham. Not areas I would suggest frequenting at night as a tourist though.
Welcome CoolA! Thanks for posting and hope to see more of you.
Personally, I’m still waiting for Burritoman to tell us where he is staying in London… there are too many places to suggest as everyone has said, so I was waiting for him to say where he is staying, or areas he was interested in…
Mlinkinhooker, that’s really funny that you were talking about Stow! I actually agree with you, mostly because I remember Stow when it was unspoilt. Most of the local shops have been replaced with local touristy shops in the past 10 years. So, that said while I still think it is nice I almost never stop there any more. And the crowds at weekends can be horrendous! Far better off in small villages and other less tourist-oriented towns.
As long as I’m here and no word on where b’man is staying, I’ll add some of my favorite pub stops in London:
1. Waterfront spots with several choices i.e. Hammersmith and Chiswick. Both accessible by tube and short walk, both have many pub choices – though better in nice weather.
2. South Ken, since it’s near tourist spots I ‘spose it’s an easy hit. I used to go to the Anglesea Arms on Onslow Gardens at Selwood Terrace (tube South Ken or Gloucester Rd) – it’s a little bit snooty at times (posh crowd) but has good beers and very good food.
3. Covent Garden – two places I take visitors, The Lamb & Flag because it’s so quintessentially pubby and tiny and old; the Roundhouse because they have my favorite beer on tap: Old Peculiar. Ask around anyone can tell you where they are, if they are locals.
Thanks for the info. Had the fish and chips at the Mayflower on Rothertithe (sp?) which has some interesting history.
Bangers and Mash at the Tea Clipper just across and down the street from Harrod’s (what a zoo!) and had a great full english breakfast just above ground and to the right as you exit the Holburn exit of the tube. All great stuff.
We did have a late night excursion to a fast food joint. Chicken cottage is the only fast food joint I have ever seen that serves lamb chops. Imagine!
Well, seeing as i live in London, this seems like an excellent topic to make my first post on. Stating the obvious, London is a big place, so if you want something different, there is plenty of opportunity to avoid the large chains.
Personally, when i go out, i always use the following website to get an idea of places. Its not my site, nut i find it useful:
My personal favourites around London are:
Zilli / Zilli Fish, if you like Italian.
New World, just off Gerrard St in Soho for Chineese
If you are in North London, try a tapas place called Jamon Jamon, visit the Camden Lock markets, and go for a drink in Gilgamesh.
Some London local favourites, fish and chips obviously, try the English beer, and if you are hungry late at night, its almost ‘traditional’ to have a kebab, especially after a few drinks. 🙂
Stephen Rushmore Jr.
Tnanks for all the great info.
While waiting for burritoman to say where he is staying in London, happily can fill you in on some of your stuff.
The place in Knightsbridge is called Patisserie Valerie. It’s a chain around London, but a very very good one. I’d eat at any of them, if I could afford. it. [:)]
In Chinatown one could always visit Lee Ho Fook (yes just like the song…), but I prefer Ho Lee Fook (not kidding).
In Eton the place you ate at is almost certainly the Eton Buttery, which I used to enjoy but have not visited in many years. (Unless I misunderstood which side of the river you were on…)
In the Cotswolds you undoubtedly stopped in Bourton-on-the-Water. While many villages there are fairly tourist-oriented, B-o-t-W is extremely so… that said as a child I loved going there, especially to the model village. But there are many many beautiful and unspoilt towns in the Cotswolds – less than there used to be, but many worth seeing. The Slaughters are still lovely, Stow-on-the-Wold mostly so, and Broadway (if you like cute teashops), the list is long. Chipping Camden is as touristy as most, and the Lygon Arms is a decent place to stop there.
FWIW, I disagree about Stonehenge, I enjoy it – though I prefer Avebury.
Stephen Rushmore Jr.
We’ve been to all of the above so I’ll sort of trace our paths for you and you can take from it what you like.
Flew into London – arrived too early to check in to our room at K+K Hotel George in the Earl’s Court area (loved it – got a deal on Expedia – small room but very clean & modern & came with FULL English breakfast full of wonderful food!). So we went down to Hard Rock Cafe and caught the first double decker bus tour of the day – sitting in the open air top (be careful – it had just rained and was overcast but I got sunburned!) Great way to get a good overview of the city.
I didn’t keep a log then but I’ll try to remember all the places we ate. Definitely hit the St. Martin’s in the Field Cafe in the Crypt http://www2.stmartin-in-the-fields.org/page/cafe/cafe.html – it’s fun for kids/teenagers as you are eating on top of tombs. Great cheap meal conveniently located at Trafalgar Square.
Don’t miss the British Museum. Wish I could tell you how to get there but we hit a great little cafe/bakery nearby that was a French name. From a map I want to say it might be Le Bistro Saboir Faire.
Don’t miss the street performers at Covent Garden and sample all the food vendors set up outside.
We love Wagamamma’s – of course there are a couple in Boston now but this is a REAL fun place – community seating, food comes out when it’s ready not necessarily all at the same time. Pretty cheap, good and fun. We ate at the one by Kensington Palace.
There is a wonderful place near Victoria & Albert Museum on Brompton – it’s on the opposite side of the street heading away up towards the Knightsbridge Tube station. It’s sort of a French bakery and it seems it has a ladies name. There are pastry counters on the left as you go in and a wonderful display in the window of pastries and marpizan work. You’ll have to wait anytime you go from what we heard but it was well worth it. Tons of local families were in there enjoying their Sunday brunch.
We also enjoyed their China Town area and the noodle shops. We ate at this discounted place that offered different prices depending on what level of the place you ate in – we ate cheapest in the basement – DON’T GO FOR IT!
After London we left and headed to Windsor. We parked near the bridge going across to Eaton and we ate at a little place on the other side of the Eaton bridge – it was quite nice. Then we got sweets at a place coming back across the bridge.
From there we went to Salisbury but couldn’t find a hotel so we drove up I think it’s 345 starts as Castle Rd down in Salisbury but becomes Salisbury Rd. up by Amesbury. We wound up at the Travelodge and it was subpar but at least a place to sleep. We went back down into Amesbury to eat at a pub – think it might have been The Bell from the maps I see – it was great and fine for a family. As we were going there for dinner, we missed a turn and ‘found’ Stonehenge by accident – it was a foggy evening and we have laughed about this for years as we hadn’t planned on seeing Stonehenge. It’s pretty disappointing.
From there we went to Bath. We ate at a fish and chips place on our way from the Roman Baths to the Costume Museum and it was nice. Think it might have been Loch Fyne on Milsom.
We drove on up and we couldn’t find a hotel where we planned on staying the next night and after calling all his other locations and they were booked, he sent us up the hill to this place we couldn’t believe – it was so wonderful we stayed two nights – Hotel de la Bere – we got it for 80 pounds a night and it was huge – in the carriage house. We had a room with two twin beds as you walked in and a tv where daugther slept and then a huge room for us and the biggest bathroom we’ve ever had in Europe! Old but wonderful when you read the history and all.
We drove into the Cotswold’s – can’t remember which little town but it was so touristy that we got back in the car and left after less than an hour. Then we found Chipping ,20,343132.010,1,30154,184.108.40.206
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I enjoyed the pub food and was never disappointed. It is not all fish and chips. What I did was seek out the oldest and most historic pubs. About 20 in 15 days for at least a pint of Guinness but not necessarily food in all of them.
As for places to eat in London we found three very small restaurants off the tourist radar guides just walking in the neighborhoods off the beaten paths and all three were excellent. I can’t even remember the names of the places. None sat more than 20 people at a time.
Howdy Burritoman — nice to hear you’re venturing to this side of the pond (I’m a Chicagoan who now lives/works in London). It’s true, London’s huge so knowing what part of town you’re going to be in would be handy. I’ve got the low-down on some great fish & chip places, as well as some good East End pie & mash and some great pubs.
Also, if you want to save some cash and research some restaurants, check http://www.toptable.co.uk. It’s UK-wide, and has special offers at many restaurants. They’ll even book the restaurants for you.
Bath: Pump room tea, Yak Yeti Yak, No. 5
Lacock The George
I had to go look up my own previous post on this subject. Searching either one of those names will get you a few things. We really loved the Mai Thai in Bath; we ate there twice (I had to go look up the name). Bath is very pretty and manageable.
There are literally entire pub guidebooks for London; go to the library and check a few recent travel guides out, and then do some multiple-site checking at places like here and Trip Advisor.
arianej is correct that there is, literally, nothing near Stonehenge. That site, which is located all by itself next to the highway that runs through the Salisbury plain, has no commercial establishments near it. And, unless things have changed since I was last there, I don’t recall the gift shop selling any food items except possibly things like crisps and bottled beverages. I think that your best bet would be to have lunch in the town of Salisbury, which is an easy drive away from Stonehenge. Unfortunately, I don’t recall the names of any restaurants in that town, but I do recommend that you stop there to tour the cathedral, as well as to eat.
In Bath, Sally Lunn’s Tea Room is touristy, but they do have nice baked goods. As to London, there is so much to choose from that you have to be more specific as to the type of food that you are looking for, as well as the price range.
I just want to caution you that, due to the incredible loss in value of the US dollar, you will find food (and everything else, actually), to be VERY expensive overseas. Assume $20. per person for lunch, and possibly more!
It’s been a few years, but I do recall a nice shop that sold Cornish pasties not far from the Abbey in Bath. I can’t recall the name, but the signage was fairly obvious. Googling turns up a result on Milsom St.– that sounds familiar. The pasties make great take-away food and the steak one was my favorite, followed by the spicy chicken pasty, which was a delicious chicken curry filling.
This is where we stayed, nice little B&B, very friendly owners and a great English breakfast:
Down the road from the B&B was a little pub called the New Inn that the owners recommended. Nice place, enter the right hand section of the bar. The food was nothing fancy, but it was good.
For Stonehenge, you may want to eat before you go or pack a lunch, because there’s not much in the immediate area. I can’t remember if they had a concession stand there or not, but I’m sure the sandwiches weren’t any better than you could buy at Sainsburys and were probably twice as expensive.
London’s a bit trickier, we spent only a few days there and were all over the place. I couldn’t get enough of the fish and chips, though. 🙂 I recall there’s a place called North Sea, not far from King’s Cross station.
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