My farm, which is a hobby farm, wa a certified organic producer until the regulations changed a few years ago. The new regulations made keeping the name plate of "organic" too expensive. We dropped it and went "organic as we can be w/o a label and local". Business has not suffered.

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Originally posted by flyseye

I was driving up the Pacific coast in WA today and saw a sign for " organic firewood ". Now thats taking things too far. My wife couldnt stop laughing.

I bet they met it came from a certified renewable forest source. There is a certified wood standard in force in the building industry. The milled lumber comes from a source that ensures its replacement with re-planting and not depletion.

I was driving up the Pacific coast in WA today and saw a sign for " organic firewood ". Now thats taking things too far. My wife couldnt stop laughing.

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Originally posted by Tony Bad
Also, near where I live there are several organic farms that are on land used for many years by potato farmers who relied heavily on the very pesticides buyers of organics want to avoid. Their "organic" produce may be worse for me than something grown on a conventional farm. The certification process doesn’t take such factors into account.

They can’t get certified "organic" until the several years after conventional farming has taken place, so that shouldn’t be a worry.

They also have to have "set-backs" of grass field borders if their neighbors are conventional farmers. That is in order to control chemical drift from the neighbor spraying his fields.

We have all lived with foods that could kill us. Transfats, margerine, HFSC, Red Dye #5. It should not be a problem to look at the label to see what we are ingesting. To me it is all about moderation if I want to wake up one day and spend $33.00 on an antipasti then so be it. I will probably do it once in my life. I have a Big Mac once a year and once in a long while I will listen to Rap music. How can you discuss it if you do not know it? As it turns out I prefer not to know it but at least I have some basis of reference. I love food. You just have to know the difference between desire and compulsion.

One more thing; We do most of our shopping at Whole Foods.

To the Ancient Mariner:

"Fair Winds, Following Seas"

BB

CSD, bring change for the meters when going to the Sendik’s on Downer, I got a $20 ticket in that lot for being 10 minutes over my time.

Same thing with the labeling WHOLE GRAIN on cereals. I flipped them over to read the label. No more fiber than before, so what is the point?

There is an interesting article on organic and the quest for status in today s Wall Street Journal. "Conspicuous Virtue and the Sustainable Sofa" March 23, 2007, page W13.

I’m looking forward to that, but may not be able to take advantage this Saturday.

Our friendly butcher from Grasch’s has gone to the Sendik’s on Downer. The next time we’re on the east side of Milwaukee, we’ll stop to visit him and check out their produce. Mich, if you’re in Milwaukee next Saturday, stop by the Lakefront Brewery on Commerce. Since the weather’s going to be in the 50’s, we’ll be back selling dogs and Polish from 1-4.

CSD

Have you tried Sendik’s for produce? Any one will do.

I sell hot dogs and I eat hot dogs. I also do all my grocery shopping at Whole Foods, Trader Joe’s, and Outpost Foods in Milwaukee. I began eating organic in 1990. 90% of the food I eat is organic. I prefer the taste of organic produce, meat, pork, and chicken. I eat no fried foods. I eat nothing with additives, preservatives, partially hydrogenated, no trans fats, or anything with cotton seed. I don’t drink milk. I drink almond milk. I drink no diet sodas or eat anything with artificial sweeteners. I use pure honey and agave nectar as a sweetener. I drink steam distilled water and tea. I’ll be 60 in September and was only in a hospital once, the day I was born. I take no medications. I’m rarely sick and if so, it’s for 24 hours or less. I’m over weight, I’m physically active, and I’m healthy. This isn’t a sermon about organic food, it’s about what I eat. When at a restaurant, I eat what’s on the menu. I eat no fast food, except when taking Roadfood tours. My significant other changed my eating habits and I thank her for it every day. On Saturday’s, when selling hot dogs, I eat a Polish. I don’t claim to be Polly Pure. Organic foods have improved my health and immune system. Is it a rip-off? Not for me. I’m willing to pay the price to stay healthy and this is what works for me.

Stay healthy and be well.

CSD

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Originally posted by flyseye

Well well, I am not sure how I have become the advocate for SOME organic foods on this site, but oh well. I must admidt I find the general negative attitude regarding them puzzling to say the least…

Most times I try and see both sides of things, but I cant for the life of me figure out the negative responses here to organic foods. Must be some deep seeded hippie hate thing. : )

If we all ate organic foods we would not have linemen in the NFL averaging over 300 lbs. and an NBA were 6′-5" is considered short. [;)] I suspect too we would not have an obese society. If you feed a cow growth hormones where do you think it will eventually end up?

Thank you Fly…I feel better.

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Originally posted by iqdiva

Fly,I didn’t mean to offend anyone.I was genuine in my concern about ecoli and salmonella contamination that had been related to organic fertilzers.And,it had been reported on CNN healthwatch.I’m sorry.

iqdiva, you did not offend me in any way. Thank you for the concern.

But I should address your issue. How many food borne illnesses have been reported from foods which were not organic ? Hundreds ? Thousands ? Yet mention organic food and this one incident is always brought up.

No problem though, I am not the food police, everyone is free to eat whatever they desire.I guess I am just confused….

Fly,I didn’t mean to offend anyone.I was genuine in my concern about ecoli and salmonella contamination that had been related to organic fertilzers.And,it had been reported on CNN healthwatch.I’m sorry.