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Home › Forums › Restaurant Professionals Forum › Restaurant Professionals Forum › How profitable are restaurants??

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  • July 25, 2006 at 5:58 pm #2543521
    bassrocker4u2
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    just wondering about your 90 seat place… what would your ace be?
    i am guessing, at 11g per day, you were turning the entire d.r. at least 4 times. that would be 30 dollars ace(average customer expenditure), 90 x 4 = 360 g.c.
    360 x 30 = 10,800$
    is this close? pretty awesome pricing….
    sounds like that 22 dollar lasagna was on you menu..heehee
    i wonder how much folks would pay for a bbq plate, in a fine dining est….

  • July 25, 2006 at 5:58 pm #2543522
    V960
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    With good capitalization (very important), a good chef, a good location, an attractive building, no gotchas from the local leg breakers, and fresh ingredients plus an interesting menu the business can be very profitable.

    IMHO, serving cooked Sysco frozen everything puts you down to a profit point here and there. Pay your people well, serve very good food and advertise just a bit.

  • July 25, 2006 at 5:58 pm #2543523
    newmans
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    quote:

    Originally posted by lleechef

    Your restaurant can make as much money as you want. In a 90-seat restaurant we would rake in $11,000 in sales every day. The wait staff made good money, I, as the chef, made a fabulous salary, my staff was well paid. Keep your food cost to about 30% work long hours and cut your labor cost.

    So if you will reduce your Food Cost only for 3% you will save $11000*365*3% = $120 465 per year, about $10,000 per month. It s nearly impossible to save such money reducing labor cost only, of course if a restaurant business well organized. If not, it s very difficult to generate $11000 every day. But if customer s major choice will be from Chef s Recommendations or Restaurant Specialty where Chef will use seasonal products with better quality for lower prices it will help to reduce Food Cost for 3% or even more.It s very simple example and in reality we need to implement whole complex of different activities including great work of front of the house staff to achieve such result. Anyway $120 000 it s a good money to work for and I believe it s possible.[:I]

  • July 25, 2006 at 5:58 pm #2543524
    ann peeples
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    Food cost at 30 percent is excellent.If its alot less, than quality food is not being served and the public is not getting what they pay for.Anyone that is squeezing food costs at less will not last……

  • July 25, 2006 at 5:58 pm #2543525
    lleechef
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    quote:

    Originally posted by newmans

    quote:

    Originally posted by lleechef

    Keep your food cost to about 30% work long hours and cut your labor cost.

    Food cost about 30% – I can t agree with this figure. For me 30% means that our Chef doesn t want to work hard, or we have problem with thefts. Anyway such food cost is occasion for investigation. There are a lot of different ways to reduce food cost without any quality losses, and experienced Chefs know it. So I guess it will be a good topic to discuss it and to share experience. [;)]

    In a fine dining restaurant like mine, a 30% food cost is excellent when you’re selling Black Angus steaks, lobster, the freshest seafood, hand-cut veal, locally made cheeses, vegetables from the farm, homemade pasta, artisinal breads and fine pastries. I challenge anyone to buy the freshest ingredients possible and keep it to 30%……..don’t forget this was not a hot dog stand nor an Olive Garden, nor a breakfast place. I used to work 100+ hours a week to maintain this cost which ultimately reflected on my bonus and you don’t EVEN want to know what that was. The wait for a table on the weekend was 3 hours and they waited.

    So imagine how you could chisel it down just selling dogs or eggs and bacon.

  • July 25, 2006 at 5:58 pm #2543526
    newmans
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    quote:

    Originally posted by lleechef

    Keep your food cost to about 30% work long hours and cut your labor cost.

    Food cost about 30% – I can t agree with this figure. For me 30% means that our Chef doesn t want to work hard, or we have problem with thefts. Anyway such food cost is occasion for investigation. There are a lot of different ways to reduce food cost without any quality losses, and experienced Chefs know it. So I guess it will be a good topic to discuss it and to share experience. [;)]

  • July 25, 2006 at 5:58 pm #2543527

    Anonymous


    OH YA

  • July 25, 2006 at 5:58 pm #2543528
    chicagostyledog
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    quote:

    Originally posted by fpczyz

    quote:

    newmans Posted – 08/04/2006 : 10:10:25
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    Perfect, the best joke of the season


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    HELLO JERRY

  • July 25, 2006 at 5:58 pm #2543529
    sizz
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    quote:

    newmans Posted – 08/04/2006 : 10:10:25
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    Perfect, the best joke of the season

  • July 25, 2006 at 5:58 pm #2543530
    newmans
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    Perfect, the best joke of the season. I am project manager of fine dining restaurant in Russia, which I plan to open in spring. Owner going to invest more than 6.000.000$ and she always ask me when I plan to return her funds. Now I have a perfect answer. Keep on & pls

    quote:

    Originally posted by prisonchef

    old joke was as follows;
    how do you make a small fortune???
    take a big fortune and invest it in a restaurant.
    hope i didn’t bust any food network tv bubbles there.
    jack

  • July 25, 2006 at 5:58 pm #2543531
    angielynnscott
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    Jack
    I don’t know if you know it, but you sure are quite amusing. I like reading your responses to information that is requested. You are informative and funny at the same time.[:D] Please keep on doing what you are doing.

    quote:

    Originally posted by prisonchef

    old joke was as follows;
    how do you make a small fortune???
    take a big fortune and invest it in a restaurant.
    hope i didn’t bust any food network tv bubbles there.
    jack

  • July 25, 2006 at 5:58 pm #2543532
    koloa
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    i worked for my friends little eatery at the local flea market. his food costs were so low that on the average day (open only on friday, saturday, sunday) AFTER expenses were paid, he still made around 800-1000 bucks profit. he sold really good kebabs, fried rice, egg rolls, snapple, and some other filipino/spanish dishes. the dishes were simple and made up of cheap ingredients (rice, chicken, potatoes, green peppers, vinnegar, etc…)

  • July 25, 2006 at 5:58 pm #2543533
    bassrocker4u2
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    i have worked many different styles and sizes of restaurants. and the profit percentage changes alot form one to another. but 10 percent of three mill, aint too bad..
    the million plus places tend to profit anywhere from 0-22 percent, depending. the under mill class, will take home closer to 35% if all runs well.
    our little mom and pop, profits 50-55 percent.

  • July 25, 2006 at 5:58 pm #2543534

    Anonymous

    quote:

    Originally posted by Sundancer7

    I am sure glad there are people in the restaurant industry that love it. To me it is a hard job with long hours and margins can be very thing. No wonder so many go under. I guess it sounds romatic to some but to me it is long hours, hard work with very little return.

    Some do very well and most do not.

    Paul E. Smith
    Knoxville, TN

    Bless these folk with a dream and taste… So sad to hear about the failure rates..

  • July 25, 2006 at 5:58 pm #2543535
    prisonchef
    prisonchef
    Member

    old joke was as follows;
    how do you make a small fortune???
    take a big fortune and invest it in a restaurant.
    hope i didn’t bust any food network tv bubbles there.
    jack

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