Those pretzels must have made him thirsty.
Hey Rusty ,
Gotta have that drink !!
And Ellen I loved the dog from Crifs and the Fires from Pomme Frites .
The deep fried Thumann reminded me of and tasted just like Rutts Hutt.
I was in that 37th Street store. What follows is a New York story.
I ordered my pair of dogs and juice drink but had to it eat in front of a starving, skeleton-thin man loitering around the narrow doorway just outside. I ate half of one dog but couldn’t in good conscience finish. So I handed him my leftover dog-and-a-half and the nearly full drink.
Without a word, he grabbed for the proffered meal, tossed the hot dogs behind him into the trash with a practiced motion, and then guzzled the drink in half-a-second.
How did you like that deep fried Crif’s Dog..?
and I love those belgian style fries at that place around the corner.
BTW, everyone, I’ve never met a NYC Payapa hot dog I did’nt like..
(whether it was the real Gray’s Papaya, Papaya King , or any other Papaya’s I’ve run into, "real" or otherwise!)
it all has tasted good to ME!
I bet you made a wonderful tour guide , Benzee..
Hey David ,
Played tour guide for some out of town friends today .
We stopped at Crifs Dogs and Pomme Fires in the East Village
With you and Billy Boy and a few others in NY we should look into a get together .
I was thinking about you today while taking the 8th Avenue bus up to catch a Sunday matinee. As the bus approached Penn Station/Madison Square Garden and the New Yorker Hotel, I started looking for any "Papaya" stands. I didn’t see any with the Papaya name other than Gray’s all the way up to my theater. Gray’s is still there. There is scaffolding covering the building for repair work. The recession special is now $3.50. Just as there are different types of milk shakes (vanilla, chocolate, strawberry) there are different spice levels of frankfurters. Many people from other parts of the country do not care for the garlic laden Kosher-style frank, but I grew up on them. At any rate, in the Penn Station/Madison Square Garden area, Gray’s Recession Special is one of the best food bargains there is. Nicholas A. B. Gray’s current soapbox topic is (Mayor) Mike Bloomberg for President.
I can’t compare but since I usually stay at 23rd St and 7th Ave. when in New York, I grab a dog or two at Chelsea Papaya almost daily and enjoy them. Like the others (I think), they are Sabrette hot dogs and come with the red onion sauce if you like it as I do.
Not only do I know that Gray’s Papaya, but while working in the area 4-5 years ago have eaten there many times. From superpages.com:
539 8th Avenue, New York, NY 10018
It is on the northwest corner of 37th Street and Eight Avenue, two blocks north of the north end of the New Yorker. Right in the heart of the garment district. Back then, two franks and a drink were about $2.25, their "Recession Special", though the local economy was booming at the time.
Back then, the franks and drinks were almost identical to what was being served at the original store on Broadway and 72nd Street. I note that Gray’s Papaya is today’s featured restaurant. However, the photos are of the original location at Broadway and 72nd Street.
Thank you everyone for your responses. I think this must be the one. We had the "special," a few actually, lol, and they were very different from what I’d had before. Very basic with the onion sauce and obligatory papaya drink. Tasty!!
Many years ago and often hungry for a hot dog, I passed many "Papaya" places not realizing they specialized in dogs. In recent times, with the knowledge gleaned from you all, I know the dogs are there – but I wondered about the connection. Thanks for the info.
Nicholas Gray owned a Papaya King Franchise. In 1973 he had a falling out with Papaya King and started Gray’s Papaya.
Papaya King was the first. billyboy’s right, he began by selling tropical fruit drinks. The hot dogs came later. After Papaya King became famed for their hot dogs, copycats sprung up, using the same concept. Today in NYC, papaya has almost become a code word for hot dog shop.
I think some of them started out by selling fruit drinks (papaya) then branched into hot dogs.
What’s the "papaya" connection or connotation with these hot dog places?
I’ve been to that one and really thought it was great on all counts. Great people watching (being right on a busy corner and most of the time the doors are open (like in the picture), great NY City no nonsense ambiance, etc. I’ve read an occasional not-so-good-review, but every time I’ve been there I enjoyed my dogs.
That is such a cool picture I’ve now made it my wallpaper for the next couple of weeks (replacing an interior shot of a 1950’s era BMT subway car). Thanks!
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