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Home › Forums › Restaurant Professionals Forum › Restaurant Professionals Forum › You’re Fired

This topic contains 42 replies, has 0 voices, and was last updated by boyardee65 boyardee65 10 years, 7 months ago.

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  • September 3, 2010 at 3:05 am #2766339
    bartl
    bartl
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    Did i rea that right?  If my boss doesn’t like my religion, HE CAN STILL FIRE ME.  I can and will sue and probably win, but an employer doesn’t have to have anyone he doesn’t want working for him FOR ANY REASON.  Obviously there are exceptions, but for the most part a private business is just that, and SHOULD BE , imo, just that…PRIVATE.

    Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Note that courts take a VERY broad view of what constitutes “interstate commerce”, and Title IX effectively expands this much further.
     
    Bart
     
     

  • September 3, 2010 at 3:05 am #2769161
    Mamie
    Mamie
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     Thank you for your wishes and prayers all!!  I will be looking for work at the beginning of the week after the Holiday. Meanwhile I will take some much deserved time off to help my Father In Law clean out his chicken coop. He has promised to pay me in beer!! Home made raspberry beer no less, made from the crop harvested this year.

    David O.

    you might want him to pay you in eggs!

  • September 3, 2010 at 3:05 am #2769175
    boyardee65
    boyardee65
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     Would love to have quoted this message but it doesn’t work on my computer. That is a topic for another thread.
     
      Thanks for the invite C.T.F and F.B.M. I would gladly work for you if I had a way to get there. I left Arizona because of the bad economy in the first place. Don’t really feel like moving again so soon.
     
      That being said, moose hunting season is right around the corner and the trout are still biting so I will not starve this winter. Also have lots of salmon stocked in the freezer.  The garden has not produced well this summer because of the rain and cool temps. I still have a lot of unripe tomatoes that I plan on pickling. They are just now starting to ripen on the vine.
     
      Thanks everyone for the kind thoughts and hope to report better news soon.
     
      David O.

  • September 3, 2010 at 3:05 am #2769176
    boyardee65
    boyardee65
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     Thank you for your wishes and prayers all!!  I will be looking for work at the beginning of the week after the Holiday. Meanwhile I will take some much deserved time off to help my Father In Law clean out his chicken coop. He has promised to pay me in beer!! Home made raspberry beer no less, made from the crop harvested this year.
     
      David O.

  • September 3, 2010 at 3:05 am #2768923

    Anonymous

    as a state’s rights advocate I realize we have different opinions  and interpretations of  the first amendment that

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

     
    the phrase “[style=”color: #ff0000;”]separation of church and state[/style]”  is found in Thomas Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in  the state of Connecticut in 1802 in response to the letter written to him in  October 1801  about their state laws governing religion  where he is referring to the “united” states, not a state  and Congress, not the state legislature.     Being from the state of Alabama, I did not support Judge Roy Moore sneaking the ten commandments monument into the rotunda in the middle of the night,   but I support the right of the people and the state to place them there  
     
    The Danbury Baptists’ letter to Thomas Jefferson

    Our sentiments are uniformly on the side of religious liberty–that religion is at all times and places a matter between God and individuals–that no man ought to suffer in name, person, or effects on account of his religious opinions–that the legitimate power of civil government extends no further than to punish the man who works ill to his neighbors; But, sir, [style=”color: #ff0000;”]our constitution of government [/style]is not specific.[style=”color: #ff0000;”] Our ancient charter [/style] together with the law made coincident therewith, were adopted as the basis of [style=”color: #ff0000;”]our government[/style], at the time of [style=”color: #ff0000;”]our revolution[/style]; and such had been our laws and usages, and such still are; that religion is considered as the first object of legislation; and  therefore [style=”color: #ff0000;”]what religious privileges we enjoy (as a minor part of the state) we enjoy as favors granted, and not as inalienable  rights[/style]; and these favors we receive at the expense of such  degrading acknowledgements as are inconsistent with the rights of  freemen. …
     
     Sir, we are sensible that [style=”color: #ff0000;”]the president of the United States is  not the national legislator[/style], and also sensible that [style=”color: #ff0000;”]the national government cannot destroy the laws of each state[/style];   but our hopes  are strong that the sentiments of our beloved president, which have had such genial effect already, like the radiant beams of the sun, will shine and prevail through all these states and all the world, till hierarchy and tyranny be destroyed from the  earth. ….
     
     we have reason to believe that America’s God  has raised you up to fill the chair of state out of that goodwill  which he bears to the millions which you preside over …
     

      
    Jefferson’s Letter to the Danbury Baptists
     

    To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.
     
    Gentlemen
     
    The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.
     
    Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his fa,26,610178.001001001002002001001001001001001001002001001001001,17,91689,68.63.48.197
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  • September 3, 2010 at 3:05 am #2768930
    rumaki
    rumaki
    Member

    It’s really beyond the scope of  this discussion, but as a lawyer who defends free expression, I feel compelled to point out that the “establishment clause” (ofter referred to as separation of church and state) is in the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution (it’s part of the Bill of Rights).
     
    http://topics.law.cornell.edu/constitution/billofrights http://topics.law.cornell.edu/constitution/billofrights
     
    It prevents the U.S. government (and, through the 14th Amendment, states and other local governments) from “establishing” an official state religion.
     
    The First Amendment’s only 45 words, and it is worth reading. 
     
     
     
     
     

  • September 3, 2010 at 3:05 am #2769188
    mr chips
    mr chips
    Member

    I’m so sorry to hear this news. My thoughts and prayers will be with you. I don’t know the law in Alaska but i know many states are at-will states( you can be fired for anything) so unless you have a union contract or some other type of limit on the employer she can do what she wishes. Again my best wishes in a horrid situation.

  • September 3, 2010 at 3:05 am #2769190
    boyardee65
    boyardee65
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    The person who fired me was the owner and husband of the other owner.
     
      I don’t know if they read anything on Roadfood.com but my guess is no.
     
      I have the right to free speech and if that offends my boss then so be it. I don’t write anything that is not the truth.
     
      David O.

  • September 3, 2010 at 3:05 am #2769200
    David_NYC
    David_NYC
    Member

    Message Redacted.

  • September 3, 2010 at 3:05 am #2769210
    Mamie
    Mamie
    Member

    my first question was is he  “the manager the owner” too.   As an ’employee at will”  with anger management issues,  the owner might want to terminate his employment for fear of bringing weapons to te work place.   If he’s the owner and physically assaults an employee,  it doesn’t matter whether he has the right to fire anybody.  
     
    our state statutes refer to  master/slave …

  • September 3, 2010 at 3:05 am #2769230
    Foodbme
    Foodbme
    Member
      [*]Don’t get mad, Get even! Go to work for a competitor![:D][8D][*]Call Sarah! Become her Personal Chef! You might wind up as Executive Chef in the White House![:D][*]Come back to AZ. We welcome people here, (IF you have Papers!)[:D][*]Seriously, you’re very good at what you do. Sharpen your knives and move on. Having worked for a boss that drank, I can tell you it doesn’t get better, only worse.
  • September 3, 2010 at 3:05 am #2769238
    chewingthefat
    chewingthefat
    Member

    I’ve read that getting fired is the third most traumatic thing a person may experience behind the loss of a loved one and divorce.
    I’ve got an opening for a good Cook here in MARYLAND!
    Sorry for your troubles, I’ll bet a fin he calls soon,  wanting you back, with a raise of course!

  • September 3, 2010 at 3:05 am #2769242
    boyardee65
    boyardee65
    Member

    Not trying to get something for nothing. I have been paying my unemployment insurance for the last 30 years and never filed a claim. I did drop the keys off last night before closing so as not to have that hanging over me.
     
      In the state of Alaska as in most states, the employer has 3 working days to provide the last pay check if they have been terminated. If they don’t, then they can be sued for 3 times the actual amount of the check.
     
      This is so surreal!!!
     
      David O.

  • September 3, 2010 at 3:05 am #2768739
    PapaJoe8
    PapaJoe8
    Member

    I feal sorry for the lady that is married to that guy. :`(
     
    Chef, you are lucky that you can just walk away.
    Joe

  • September 3, 2010 at 3:05 am #2769260
    saps
    saps
    Member

     
    bwave,
    How is he trying to get something for nothing if he may have been wrongfully terminated?   
    How are you “sure” that the cook had something to do with it?

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