Thanks Matt[8D]..see it’s stuff just like this that those “Complete Plans” guys don’t tell ypu and then your standing there scartching your head.[:(!]..
Hi Tasty, The hot dog cart insert pan should be a Water pan insert. The water pan insert is a different size than the hotel Full, 1/2, 1/3 1/6 if you use the hotel pans they don’t always fit right, they will in most cases only fit half way into the pan. When you go to the Restaurant supply house they should have given you the Dimensions for a Water insert pan/chaffing dish pan/ steam table pan and so on………………..Bill
This heavy-duty aluminum steam table spillage pan offers a superior design that keeps food hot and appetizing. Convenient and durable, the 5 1/2″ deep design will easily fit into your steam table. It will accommodate a standard full size steam table pan up to 4″ deep. This product may also be called a steam table water pan. The overall dimensions of this spillage pan are 20 3/4″L x 12 3/4″W x 5 1/2″H.
This heavy-duty stainless steel steam table spillage pan offers a superior design that keeps food hot and appetizing. Convenient and durable, the 6″ deep design will easily fit into your steam table. It will accommodate a standard full size steam table pan up to 4″ deep. Features vented sides and corners. This product may also be called a steam table water pan. The overall dimensions of this spillage pan are 20 3/4″L x 12 3/4″W x 6 1/4″H.
When I built my cart the plans give me a dimension for a firebox that would hold one half pan and one full pan. I then went to a restaurant supply and got the two pans and when I inserted them in the flanges overlapped by a 1/4″ or more on the ends. No problem except unhandy when I wanted to take out one before other. I could live with this. I dropped in a full perforated pan in the full pan and it fit OK. May be stuck up a little. But when I wanted to add chili and cheese, I took out the full perforated pan and replaced with a 2/3 perf and two 1/6 pans. Would not fit. Could get them in but overlapped in every direction. I ended up by cutting part of the flange off all the pans where they met. Also had to do the same thing with the lids. It works OK. But I obviously didn’t have a true full pan to start. So, since I’ve always wondered, I thought I would ask some of the greatest minds in all humanity that drift in and out of here to clarify this for me. My so called full pan measures 20 7/8″ x 12 7/8″ from the outer most flanges. Is this actually an insert pan to a true full pan. If you were to order a set of pans for this and build your own firebox, what would be the terminology for the full pan and the full pan insert? Hey, I’m only a hot dog guy running about the smallest cart available to man. You don’t expect me to know stuff real food people know, do you?
That is correct.
Matt- Thanks for the info. Please disregard comment on other thread. It is the inside configuration of the spillage pan that allows you to set regular smaller pans in to build your steam table, correvt?
A “standard” full size steam table pan measures 12-7/8″ x 20-7/8″ OD and is the pan you place your food in.
A “Standard” pan will not fit inside another “standard” pan of similar size. They are designed to nest partially inside each other for storage. This is why your 2/3 and two 1/6 size pans would not fit. It could also be why your full size perforated pan didn’t fit either. There is a difference between a perforated steam pan and perforated insert.
A spillage pan or water pan is used over direct heat and will have similar OD dimensions as a “standard” pan but the ID is slightly larger so you can fit “standard” pans inside. When using spillage pans or water pans, you are limited to using “standard” pans that are 4″ or less deep.
1 each full size spillage pan.
This will fit in the large opening directly over heat. You will fill this pan with two inches of water and then place your two 1/6 size pans and one 2/3 perforated pan inside.
1 each 2/3 size steam table pan.
This will fit in the other opening over direct heat. You will fill this pan with water and steam your dogs.
http://www.polarware.com http://www.polarware.com/ has a lot of good information on pan sizes. There are numerous combinations available.
We started out with aluminum spillage pans. If you are in an area with lots of minerals in the water, it will build up quickly on the aluminum. If you have the money to do so, start out with Stainless Seel. We were pretty much broke when we built our cart. I was working a minimum hours/minimum wage job the we were living on at the time plus it was funding the cart build. So we went cheap figuring to replace the pan eventually. That was well over a year ago and we are still using the aluminum spillage pans. They look terrible but are very serviceable. One holds the ice for our cold table and the other is the hot table pans.
Of the two pans shown by Billyb, which one is the better one to go with?
Termonology for steam pans
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