Jayson, sorry that Federicos was closed. They sell the dogs that are used at Hot Dog Johnny’s. I was told this by the owner of Schmalz Provisions, who is their supplier. Let me give you a little history. A few years ago I was picked as a guest muncher for the Star Ledger’s Munchmobile. We went around in a van reviewing hot dog carts and wagons. The article describing our travels was published in the Ledger shortly after. As a result, people that I know, many of which were on my mail route, started talking to me about their favorite hot dogs. A couple of people mentioned a place in Clark called Schmidt’s (now Federicos) that they claimed sold excellent homemade franks. I went and bought a few that I took home and grilled. And enjoyed. While there, I asked about the dogs and was told that they weren’t made on the premises, but supplied by Schmalz’s Provisions. The owners of Schmalz’s also owned Schmidt’s, but sold it to the people who owned it when I first went there. These people have since sold it to the people who now own it, Federicos. Even though they are primarily an Italian deli and specialty store, they still carry Schmalz’s franks, bratwursts, and other meats and maintain a good relationship with them.
In an amazing coincidence, I saw a van on my route that said Schmalz Provisions. I spoke with the guy who owned the van and it turned out that he is the owner of Schmalz Provisions. I went to their plant in Newark and spoke with him there. The dogs can be bought there along with their other products. And for much cheaper than you would buy them at Federicos. While I was there, I asked him where else his hot dogs were sold and why I didn’t see them in supermarkets. I was told that he had problems getting them in supermarkets, even being required to pay a fee to get them in there. He said his dogs are sold in Chicago and Russia. Yes, Russia! He then asked me if I heard of Hot Dog Johnny’s. I said that I had, and he told me that his dogs are used there. They are sold to a distributor who sells them to Johnny’s.
When I went to the plant in Newark, the dogs were sold in packages labeled Schmalz. When buying them at Schmidt’s/Federicos they come either loose or in unlabeled plastic packages.
John, I actually was just there one week ago on saturday and asked the girl who served me and she said they were fried. I meant to post that last week, just havent had time. I went to pick up Hot Dog Johnnys dogs, Schmalz’s, at Fredericos two days ago on Saturday and I arrived exactly five minutes late. They closed at six and I got there at six o five. I was so dissapointed so im gonna head there earlier next weekend to pick them up. And like you said, they are the same dogs Hot Dog Johnnys uses right? While in the area I stopped in Kenilworth to go to charlies but then my friend and I had an uncontrollable craving for white castle so we jumped on 22 to union and that was the end of that. When you go to Johnnys this week let me know how you liked it this time and buy a whole pickel, sliced. They are excellent. Take care.
I called Hot Dog Johnny’s today and spoke with the owner. I wanted to ask her for directions and then I was planning to find out how the dogs were cooked by telling her that one of my children can’t eat fried foods and asking if the dogs were prepared this way. She told me to check their website (http://www.hotdogjohnnys.com) for directions and then hung up before I could ask about the dogs. I called back, and she told me that they fry everything including the dogs. So you were right and I was wrong. Last time I was there, I was told that the dogs were boiled. Perhaps the employee meant boiled in oil? I’m planning on making a return trip sometime this week.
A hotdog made of schmaltz? Now that would be interesting. [:D]
I worked in a hot dog stand during college that served really tasty hot dogs. Their secret was to simmer the "red hots" in pure lard. The red coloring would fade out and the dogs got soggy if you let them sit in hot water. They really didn’t seem to soak up the lard. The owner always made a big deal about not telling anyone about the lard. Kept hot over a steam table, the lard didn’t smoke.
Great job Brookquarry and Mr Fox you are the Hot dog Information King
Thank You and I am looking forward to the 4th ![:o)]
Great job! I really enjoyed reading your comments. For me it’s always fun to hear opinions of the places that I’ve been to, especially from someone going there for the first time. I should have told you to try the dog from the Galloping Hill Inn without the chili. The dog is better either plain or with some of their Dusseldorf mustard which is very good. This is one great dog. The chili isn’t that good and I think it’s the reason that Holly only gave it 3 grease stains.
Jerry’s and Tommy’s use an all beef dog that to me is spicier than the dogs used by the other 3 places. Maybe it’s just the different spices in an all beef dog (garlic and paprika) that stand out. The Galloping Hill’s dog is very flavorful with a different spicing.
Rutt’s Hut is a place that evokes a wide variety of opinions. It seems that people either love or hate the dogs there. My family hates them and won’t eat there. I love these dogs, although lately I enjoy the grilled beef/pork dogs from Galloping Hill Inn and the Windmill in my area more than the deep fried rippers. Next time you have to at least look in the bar area. A great place to have a few beers. It has an old time look and feel. They also have a dining area back there too.
Next time you’re in the area, let me suggest that you try Syd’s and Charlies. Charlies is right off exit 138 of the Parkway, but instead of turning right like you would for the Galloping Hill Inn, turn left, go about half a mile and turn left on Michigan Ave. Charlies is right there. Very clean and they have a restroom, as does Syd’s. And you can get a single Italian Hot dog which is bigger than Tommy’s for about $3.00
Maybe the dogs are fried at Johnny’s. As I’ve stated, I have been told fried and boiled/steamed. I plan on making a trip again soon. I’ll try and find out. Toby’s Cup is my favorite hot dog in West Jersey. The dogs are a little tastier than the others. I get mine with just the yellow mustard and pickle slice (no onions). A different type of dog, and you can’t beat the price. They use Berks from Pa.
There are 2 places that I know of where you can get Schmalz dogs. One is at the plant in Newark. Located on Napolean St. I forget how to get there. The other place is a deli in Clark called Federicos. Go to exit 135 on the Parkway, bear right off the exit, make a left onto Raritan rd. at the first light. Go to the next light and make a left into the Clarkton Shopping Center. Go towards the back and look for Federicos on the right hand side.
Sorry, typo. I meant when the road BELOW the fence, not even sure exactly which one he is talking about, is where they drag raced.
John, Ive asked people at Hot Dog Johnnys and they have told me they were fried. Maybe they tell different things to different people to keep it secret, who knows. Also my parents who live in this area since the early seventies have told me they asked long ago and were told they were fried. My parents grew up right near Rutts and used to frequent it when they were just starting to drive. My dad said it was big hangout for them(being kids then) and everyone used to park and hang out and show off there cars. He said the reason for the many no littering signs( which is obvious)is when they were young EVERYONE threw theyre garbage off the side. I love how clearly outdated the signs are with a fine of 50$ haha. He said before the road below was completed they used to drag race there too. Ahh, I wish as a kid I grew up in that time period rather than now. Anyway I love history of old places like that so I thought id share some. What do you think of Tobys Cups dogs? I think they deserve to be on the map just for the unique little stand they sell out of. One last thing, can you give me some info on how to order Schmalz’s hot dogs that Hot Dog Johnnys uses? Thanks, Your the hotdog King!
finally I came to my last stop: The Hot Grill. The hot grill has a 1980’s fast food type ambience. Everything is well lit, bright clean and efficent. Typical fast food type booths. You order at the counter and the dog is assembled in the back and served on plastic trays. I had a Texas Wiener with the works. This is a hot dog with texas wiener sauce (sort of a bitter chili sauce) and lots of raw onions on top. To me the sauce tasted a lot like the sauce used on chilidogs by Yoccos,a small Allentown PA chain.I liked the dog better overall than Yoccos, maybe because of the onions, and maybe( I know this is starting to sound like a broken record) because the dog had more taste to it than Yoccos.
Overall,I liked all of the dogs except Rutts Ripper. My favorite was Tommys Italian dog, especially because of the home fries served with it. The place I am most likely to revisit, though is Galloping Hill, partly because its so convenient to the Garden State Parkway, and partly because its probably the only place my wife would enjoy (Its the most attractive). For ambiance however, I will still take Hot dog Johnnys Where else can you have hot dogs and chilled buttermilk on attractively landscaped grounds by the Pequest river. Taste isn’t everything.
In answer to your two questions
1. I assumed, based on the Holly eats web-site that Chrleys was closed on Sunday. I’m sorry I missed it. If its better than Tommys it must be good indeed.
2.I had the single at Tommys (with 5 hot dog stops in a couple hours, I wasn’t going to order any doubles). The price was $5.25
Which I thought high. back home you get a much bigger cheesesteak with (presumably) more expensive meat for less than that. Of course, back home you can get a (admittedly bland) hotdog for 75 cents (Jimmys in Easton Pa)
Hot dog Excursion continued
My next stop was theGalloping Hill Inn, a quaint establishment which appeared to me to be a well kept up 1920’s or 30’s era Roadhouse- modernized but still reataining the ambiance of that era. There was table service in a wood paneled dining room and walk-up window service in an enclosed with seating at small picnic tables. The place was clean and the restrooms spotless.
Iordered a chili dog, for varietys sake (and because it was the style of dog featured on Hollyeats). The chili was ordinary. Ibroke a piece off the dog to sample it plain. It was favorfull, with I thought a bolder and spicier taste than Jerry’s or Tommy’s.If return, Iwould order the dog plain.
My next stop was Rutt’s Hut. This place is a true anachronism. It appears nothing- including the signs- has been changed in over 50 years. There is a bar-which I did not enter – and a walk up counter. You place your order and eat it standing up at a free standing counter condiments are available in huge metal bowls.Although the place is reasonably clean every thing has an old, shop worn appearance. Although there is a pretty vaied menu, everyone there when I ordered, was eating hot dogs.
All Rutts dogs are deep fried. I ordered a "Ripper" (midway on the Rutts scale of deep-friedness, between a ‘in-and-outer" and a "Cremator"). I covered half the dog with Rutts sweet relish and ate the other half plain.Everyone says Rutts dogs taste unique.They do.I didn’t like them. There was a deep-fat aftertaste. The relish, on the other hand, was exceptionally good. If
I was to return I would have an ‘in-and-outer" covered with relish. (to be continued)
I believe Rutt’s dogs are fried in vegetable oil.
I’ve cooked hot dogs every way imaginable. You mention that on a normal day you can see the skin shriveled up "in the way only deep fried dogs do". I’ve seen shrivelled up dogs that have been cooked on a grill. Years ago, I had been told that the dogs were deep fried. This was before I had even eaten one. I went and sampled the dogs. I asked the owner how they were prepared and what brand they were and she reacted as though I had asked her weight. I later found out where the dogs were made. I had assumed that the dogs were deep fried and posted this info (as well as a negative review of the dogs) on another forum. Someone who said they were an employee of Hot Dog Johnny’s posted that the dogs are definitely not deep fried, but he would not say how they were prepared. Another employee that served me at Johnny’s told me that the dogs were boiled. The person who owns the company that makes the hot dogs served at Johnny’s told me that they are either boiled or steamed.
I’m not 100% sure because the owner would not tell me. But the bottom line is that the dogs weren’t good. At least that is my opinion as well as the opinion of my wife, son, and daughter.
Can you tell me how you know the dogs are fried? I’ve since had the same dog served at Johnny’s in a local deli near me. It was steamed and tasted exactly like the dogs that I had at Johnny’s. But I’m willing, even curious to go back and try them again. I can understand the owner’s reluctance to divulge the brand used (Schmalz skinless franks) but not her reluctance to say how they are cooked. Some people cannot eat fried food and deserve to know if the dogs are prepared this way.
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