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Home › Forums › Restaurant Professionals Forum › Restaurant Professionals Forum › keeping hambugers in water

This topic contains 29 replies, has 0 voices, and was last updated by ROCKIN_L ROCKIN_L 10 years, 7 months ago.

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  • September 21, 2010 at 2:33 pm #2816003
    lleechef
    lleechef
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    Holding them in beer, beef broth, onions and L&P sounds fine.  Plain water does not!  [V]

  • September 21, 2010 at 2:33 pm #2766097
    chewingthefat
    chewingthefat
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    As a customer, if I saw this, I’d laugh and walk away.

  • September 21, 2010 at 2:33 pm #2816022
    Foodbme
    Foodbme
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    No different than the “Dirty Water Dog” Guys in NYC.

    Years ago, at a concession stand for our HS Football games we’d grill burgers for the half time rush and hold them in trays with beer, beef broth, onions and Worcestershire  and they were terrific! A few beers were consumed in solo cups during the cooking process as well to keep the Chefs properly hydrated! 

  • September 21, 2010 at 2:33 pm #2764579
    georgiadogs
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    fortunately my dining is seperate from my kitchen. We haven’t had any complaints and we don’t keep that much ahead. Just enough so people don’t have to wait at lunch.

  • September 21, 2010 at 2:33 pm #2764585
    DantesRedHot
    DantesRedHot
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    I don’t know what kind of business you run but I would imagine your customers appreciate the quality they receive from your establishment. Even if a parcooked burger doesn’t taste differently, the perception isn’t good.
    I pride myself on the quality I serve and I would imagine that most people here do as well. We are posting and reading about food in our free time.
    My kitchen is open and people are 3 feet from my grill and broiler, I know the reaction I would get from my customers if they saw me pull a burger out of the water.
    For my business, shortcuts go against the very thing I hate about “fastfood”
    Not trying to judge, just my 2cents

  • September 21, 2010 at 2:33 pm #2766128
    fishtaco
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    Did this when I worked for RJ Gators. Great way to stay ahead during the rush. Did grilled chicken breasts too.

  • September 21, 2010 at 2:33 pm #2766131
    edwmax
    edwmax
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    That’s the way DQ use to do it in my area.  I never could tell the difference between the patties that soaked and the ones straight off the grill.    … Flip the soaked pattie back on the char-grill heat, dry, finish cooking, &/or melt cheese and serve.  It cut the waiting time a lot.  … But, I thought DQ used a combo of water & beef broth in the holding pan.

  • September 21, 2010 at 2:33 pm #2816051
    scrumptiouschef
    scrumptiouschef
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    My buddy Matt is the fastest short order cook I ever worked with. Just a beast. He works in a bar across from UT that rings 15k on busy shifts. All burgers and tacos. He devised a system he called ‘buddy burger’. When the first order comes in he slaps an extra patty down, two orders-two extra patties go down and so on and so on. No water bath, just relentlessly putting down patties that have yet to be ordered. Works like a charm and he’s done it since ’91.

  • September 21, 2010 at 2:33 pm #2766133
    BuddyRoadhouse
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    I used to work at a hot dog joint that did heavy burger business at lunch.  We were serving 6:1 burgers; bigger than a McDonald’s standard burger, smaller than a Quarter Pounder.  Although they cooked fairly quickly, you’re right, it is still nice to have some waiting in the wings.  Instead of just plain water, we used a beef broth.  IIRC, it was just a bouillon cube dissolved in hot water.
     
    The steam tray containing the broth and burgers sat at the far reaches of the grill so it stayed warm but didn’t further cook the burgers.  It worked great!  Only problem was, with an open kitchen, the customers could see the burgers resting in the broth and thought it was grease.  They objected, we stopped the practice.  If you’re working in a closed kitchen it might work fine.
     
    BTW, I assume you’re talking about par cooked burgers in the water which are then briefly returned to the grill for a warm up before serving.
     
    Buddy

  • September 21, 2010 at 2:33 pm #2766138
    georgiadogs
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    Any of you guys keep hamburgers up in water on the grill? Have started doing this and can’t tell a big difference. We get so swamped sometimes its nice to have a few ahead.

  • September 21, 2010 at 2:33 pm #2765883
    BillyB
    BillyB
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    Maybe your busy because they like the fresh burgers off the grill….Just sayin’………………

  • September 21, 2010 at 2:33 pm #2816064
    Big_g
    Big_g
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    At a place I worked at in the ’70s…our lunch crowd would slam us and we couldn’t keep up…so we’d cook a dozen or so about half way and slip them into a pan of 130* AuJus….toss it back on the grill to finish it and start a fresh one….never had a complaint from anyone and the burgers/patty melts were GREAT 🙂

     

  • September 21, 2010 at 2:33 pm #2816073
    scrumptiouschef
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    One of my favorite quick marts in Lily Kentucky stores their burgers in a water bath. Out of the bath they’re terrible. I asked the lady when they do the cook and she said 9am. I was there the next morning and had one hot off the flattop and it was unbelievable. They grind their own beef in-house, and make the best chili bun in the region.

    Shop N Cart serves a blue collar lunch crowd who want their meal cheap and fast and could give a fig if it’s hot off the griddle.

  • September 21, 2010 at 2:33 pm #2765901
    chewingthefat
    chewingthefat
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    As a customer, if I saw this, I’d laugh and walk away.

    What you’re doing at your place and what georgiadogs is talking about are two different operations with different customers and different expectations.  If I was expecting a 1/2 pound pub burger cooked medium rare to order, you’re right, this method is unacceptable.  For a high volume, fast food oriented place, where speed and price are often a greater concern to the customer, this method works just fine.

    Buddy

    I totally understand this, I personally would wait for a fresh made burger. Honestly, I didn’t know places did this, high volume burger joints seem to be wrapping and bagging as soon as they come off the flat top. Take 5 Guys, Please![;)] drum roll, Henny Youngman![:)]

  • September 21, 2010 at 2:33 pm #2816093
    hpx
    hpx
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    Years ago we kept them in beef broth. Gives it more flavor than just water.

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