I see the word decadent and I lose my appetite. I’m almost as sick of that word as I am the EVOO woman.

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Originally posted by flyseye

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/food/organic-products-206/when-buying-organic-pays-and-doesnt/index.htm

Thanks for this link!

As for the debate, I think it arises from the fact that while there are differences between some organic vs. non-organic foods, there still is no consensus on what this means to our health.

Also, near where I live there are several organic farms that are on land used for many years by potato farmers who relied heavily on the very pesticides buyers of organics want to avoid. Their "organic" produce may be worse for me than something grown on a conventional farm. The certification process doesn’t take such factors into account.

Have you ever seen cattle standing on a mountain of manure day after day??

Now that’s organic.

LOL[;)][;)][xx(]

The lady

You are fortunate, Flyseye.

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Originally posted by Ciaoman

. Of course, if there were local, organic producers available, that might be another story.

I guess I am lucky in that regard as 90% of the local produce on the Olympic Peninsula is organic, and for the most part less expensive than the supermarket non-organic stuff.

It appears that bona fide organically-produced stuff brings with it some health benefits. What I find interesting is that something labeled "organic" often doesn’t taste as good as something grown locally. I saw a TV spot about this recently. It pointed out that organic produce is often shipped long distances like any other produce you find in the supermarket. Thus, organic tomatoes may be no tastier than the ordinary stuff. Indeed, they may have been grown on side-by-side plots on the other side of the country–they both will have little taste by the time they get here. The only difference is that you’ll pay dearly for the organic one. I love fruits and vegetables…I REALLY love the stuff that’s produced locally and try to support the farmers who grow it. To my way of thinking, local and tasty trumps organic and tasteless every time. Of course, if there were local, organic producers available, that might be another story.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/food/organic-products-206/when-buying-organic-pays-and-doesnt/index.htm

I could post dozens of links regarding the crap that is added to food these days.

I found it interesting that in the link posted a couple of posts above this was printed, then immediately downplayed:

""""The Bottom Line
The revised rules went into effect on October 21, 2002. The latest USDA definition states:

Organic food is produced by farmers who emphasize the use of renewable resources and the conservation of soil and water to enhance environmental quality for future generations. Organic meat, poultry, eggs, and dairy products come from animals that are given no antibiotics or growth hormones. Organic food is produced without using most conventional pesticides; petroleum-based fertilizers or sewage sludge-based fertilizers; bio-engineering; or ionizing radiation. Before a product can be labeled "organic," a Government-approved certifier inspects the farm where the food is grown to make sure the farmer is following all the rules necessary to meet USDA organic standards. Companies that handle or process organic food before it gets to your local supermarket or restaurant must be certified, too """""

I dont see where there is even a debate.

I think that organic produce carries a greater risk of ecoli or salmonella contamination because of "organic" fertilizers used in their cultivation.

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/organic.html

This is a pretty good article on the subject. I buy a couple of "organic" products because they taste better. Organic bananas available where I live are usually a better quality and better taste than non-organic. I have also found that organic non-fat milk tastes better and doesn’t seem as watery as other skim milk.

I stay away from organic foods. Who needs em ?

Personally I still have some DDT left over from the 60’s, I spray it on all my foods just to bring back those childhood memories.

I also refuse to buy any meat that hasnt been injected with that stuff that keeps it looking red, even if you let it sit out on the counter for a couple of days. Yum !!

And those added growth hormones are better than Enzyte !!

WOW! Both "Global Warming" and "organic food" are VERY touchy subjects, capable of igniting a lot of very HEATED conversation (kinda like politics and religion).

Personally, I think that "organic" food is pure hype and marketing. A lot of people have reportedly gotten very wealthy hawking "organic" food. Case in point, is the grocery chain Whole Foods (whose stock dropped nearly 40 percent last year when their customers deserted them in droves).

Where I live, many of the supermarkets sport an "organic" produce section where the produce is priced two to three times the normal price. When I read the labels on some of these expensive produce items, they indicated that the country of origin was Mexico, Honduras, Ecuador, etc.

Now I love my neighbors in Latin America, but I REALLY question the "controls" and "inspections" that the Latin American governments exert over their "organic" producers (farmers, etc.).

I suppose if spending more money, often a LOT MORE money, on something labeled "organic" makes you feel better . . . then go for it. But for me, I just do not buy into the hype.

Happy Saint Pat’s to you Mariner! I agree on the organic. It’s just like Certified Angus Beef. Once it’s packaged for sale, how do we know. I will eat my beef and veggies, but I ain’t going to worry about if they are certifed or organic.

[;)]
The Lady

Maybe it was a typo… "an orgasmic feast".