Paul, that was so nice.
I guess I don’t really know the definition either, because I grew up eating many of the same things you just described[:p][:p][:p]
I guess the definition of soul food can be diverse. My grandparents grew up on a huge farm in upper Tennessee. They made their own way. They milked their cows, created their cream, killed their hogs, killed their beef, canned their products and what they had was soul food although they did not know it. What they had was Tennessee cuisine.
They cooked their prok and beef over a fire and I guess that was BBQ. They cooked okra, beans, pork chops, corn bread and other wonderfuol things over the fire.
Is that soul food???? I do not know but they did very well. My grandfather lived to age of 97 eating this wonderful food.
I spent many wonderful summers with him and his wife helping them work the fields and enjoy a huge breakfast every morning which always included country ham that they had cured, bacon which they had cured or pork chops which they had canned.
Lunch was the same and dinner was the same.
I guess so???
Paul E. Smith
I agree Michael…The southern country cooking of southeast Alabama has many german influences…My father’s family is of german-cherokee descent…That combination of heritage is a common one in this area as is english and scotch-irish…
I have to take issue with at least one thing on that list of so-called soul foods: chicken fried steak. Chicken fried steak has its origins among the Germans who settled in Texas in the mid 1800s. As I understand it, the settlers used tougher cuts of beef, as there was no veal available, to make something similar to weiner schnitzel.
Southern cuisine is remarkably diverse,according to region and social status…But,as an 11th generation southerner,I say that the two are not the same.Southern country cooking is very much influenced by english and german cuisine,as well as black culture…Soul food,in my opinion,descends from slave culture…They are both cuisines that I was brought up on and dearly,dearly love !
an old old thread:
As far as the question, I’d say not necessarily, but can be.[;)]
Is soul food Southern Country Cooking pretty much?
There are food historians who can do a better job of explaining an answer to this question. As I understand it, BBQ is just one small segment of foods classified as Soul Food. Using Wikipedia, the following came up under soul food meats. Most are fried or boiled:
Country-fried steak, with baked beans and mashed potatoes with white gravyChicken gizzards, batter-fried
Chicken livers, batter-fried
Chitterlings ("chitlins") (the cleaned and prepared intestines of hogs, slow cooked and often eaten with vinegar and hot sauce; sometimes parboiled, then battered and fried)
Country fried steak, also known as "chicken fried steak" (beef deep-fried with a crisp flour or batter coating, usually served with white gravy)
Cracklins (commonly known as pork rinds and sometimes added to cornbread batter)
Fatback (fatty, cured, salted pork; used to season meats and vegetables)
Fried chicken (fried in grease with seasoned flour)
Fried fish (any of several varieties of fish especially catfish, but also whiting, porgies, bluegills dredged in seasoned cornmeal and deep fried
Ham hocks (smoked, used to flavor vegetables and legumes)
Hoghead cheese (made primarily from pig snouts, lips, and ears, and frequently referred to as "souse meat" or simply "souse")
Hog maws (hog jowls, sliced and usually cooked with chitterlings)
Meatloaf (typically with tomato sauce)
Neckbones (beef neck bones seasoned and slow cooked)
Oxtail soup (a soup or stew made from beef tails)
Pigs feet (slow cooked like chitterlings, sometimes pickled and, like chitterlings, often eaten with vinegar and hot sauce)
Ribs (usually pork, but can also be beef ribs"
Google "Origins of Soul Food" and you’ll get all kinds of stuff[;)][;)][8D]
With sincerity please tell me your opinion and share recipes!
Calvin Trillin once wrote that going to a white-run barbecue place is like going to a gentile internist: It might work out all right, but you’re not playing the percentages.
Dr of BBQ
Oh man I grew up on white bread buttered then both slices
laid side by side on a plate and covered with great brown or
white gravy depending on what we had for diner that night.
Boy was it good. Great memories from my childhood. Now that
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Submitted tongue in cheek too[:X]
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Dr of BBQ
Submited Tongue in cheek
The History of BBQ and Humans:
The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups: Liberals and Conservatives.
When beer was invented it required grain, and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so our early human ancestors just stayed close to the brewery. That’s how villages were formed.
Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to BBQ at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as "the Conservative movement".
Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly BBQ’s and doing the sewing, weaving and hair dressing. This was the beginning of "the Liberal movement." Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as ‘girleymen’.
Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the trade union, class action lawsuits, the invention of group therapy & group hugs and the concept of democratic voting to decide how to divide the BBQ and beer that conservatives provided.
Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. The jackass symbolizes Liberals.
Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu and French food are standard liberal fare.
Another interesting revolutionary side note: most liberal women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, hairdressers, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented baseball’s designated hitter rule because it wasn’t "fair" to make the pitcher also bat.
Conservatives drink domestic beer and eat ribs, brisket, pulled pork, pork tenderloin, and potatoes. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, soldiers, self-employed, athletes, and owners of lots of BBQ equipment. Generally conservatives are anyone who works productively outside government. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.
Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to "govern" the producers and decide what to do with the production. They also like to take money away from successful people and give it to the failures. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tame and created a business of trying to get MORE of everything and especially BBQ.
Thus ends today’s lesson in world history
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