Since you already know you will be only one of at least four food vendors (even if the prices the others charge are supposed to be higher than yours), I think you are unrealistic in thinking that you will be able to sell dogs to 50% of the total number of people attending. If that estimated attendance and a wait of 45 minutes in line previously is realistic, I am pretty sure other food vendors will be begging to be included (maybe corn dogs, chicken fingers, pork chop sandwiches, smoked turkey legs, egg rolls or barbecue sandwiches, all meat items we have available at our Heart of Illinois Fair). With this, you now could be competing with 9 other vendors. And, as chefbubba asked, would you physically be able to sell a hot dog every 7 seconds all day long on Saturday?
I am not psychic, but a total of 2000 to 3000 hot dogs seems a far more reasonable number to me (and even that might be a high figure). This would mean you are selling a dog about every 15 seconds on Saturday, and you are serving 1 out of every 6 potential attendees.
All the input is greatly appreciate it gives me more to kick around in my head till weather I decide to take this on. Answering some question yes there wll be other vendors Mexican, Italian Beef , Burgers that I know of. I was told that their prices range from $7 to $12. I would be cheeper. My #1 question is how to gauge amount of product to bring?
Buck & Vi’s
You say you have the exclusive on dogs but is there any other food offerd there? did you have to pay a fee for the exclusive? if theres other food where are they located according to your spot? dont think I would wait 45 min. for a hot dog, and then go back to the same event again, if that was all that was offerd for food, also cant believe the promoter is going let people sit in line for that long with out hearing them b#*ch about it. if I was promoting it I would have more than one food if I new people were wainting that long. people have to waite to long they dont return again.unless it’s something REAL SPECIAL!! not to say your stuff isint but you know what I mean…….just my.02 worth
I just got the inside line on an event that is estimating 12,000 to 18,000 people over 2 days 1-11 on Friday and 9-7 on Saturday with the exclusive on dogs. The event is free to the public with lots of kids. They want it to be reasonable priced I have some figures in my mind on what I am going to charge. But the question I have what kind of quantities should I order? It is in an area with not much back up support for large orders so I will have to have all the products on hand for the whole weekend. I am thinking that I could sell about 2000 dogs on fri. and 5000 on sat. does this sound reasonable? They said that 2 years ago when they had this event the lines were 45 minute wait for food. My cart can’t put out that many dogs so I will have turkey cookers to cook in bulk [style=”background-color: #ffff00;”]then transfer to the pans[/style]. Any input or info in regards to events of this size is appreciated.
At the rate you’re going to need those hot dogs, you might not have to worry about transferring to the pans. Just have a good crew to help you out with money, cleaning, etc. Do what you can do comfortably. This sounds like a good event in any case. Good Luck and let us know the outcome. DD
LuckyDog, I have to agree. You can sell more if you hire help than you can alone, but figure how many dogs you can realistically bun based on the effort you wish to expend.
If I had a 45 minute wait for hours, I believe it would be quite appropriate to charge $5 for a nice all beef 5/1. I read it suggested once that one might call the people bringing the porta potties and ask how many they are bringing. Not a bad idea, since the promoters don’t want to pay for any more outhouses than they have to.
Sounds like it could be a good opportunity. You don’t always no what to expect. Good luck. I’d like to hear how it goes.
The question you need to ask your self is can you produce 3.3 dogs per minute, every minute for 10 hrs straight?
And 8.3 per minute on Saturday?
You need to know what your max output per hr or day is and figure on that.
Yes you will have the opportunity to sell a lot of dogs, but I think 7000 is an unrealistic number for one hot dog cart.
Where would you store 140 cases of dogs?… That takes a lot of room. You would need mechanical refrigeration.
How are you going to store 400 18 packs of buns out of the sun, weather, off the ground, you can’t stack them more than 2 deep or they will be crushed.
I have a problem storing a few hundred buns and rolls for an event and I have a 20′ trailer.
Then there is the problem with the “estimate” of attendees, promoters ALWAYS pump up the numbers. Search on here about that…plenty of threads on attendance.
I just got the inside line on an event that is estimating 12,000 to 18,000 people over 2 days 1-11 on Friday and 9-7 on Saturday with the exclusive on dogs. The event is free to the public with lots of kids. They want it to be reasonable priced I have some figures in my mind on what I am going to charge. But the question I have what kind of quantities should I order? It is in an area with not much back up support for large orders so I will have to have all the products on hand for the whole weekend. I am thinking that I could sell about 2000 dogs on fri. and 5000 on sat. does this sound reasonable? They said that 2 years ago when they had this event the lines were 45 minute wait for food. My cart can’t put out that many dogs so I will have turkey cookers to cook in bulk then transfer to the pans. Any input or info in regards to events of this size is appreciated.
Here’s the plan for now: We got 2 turkey cookers can cook 80 dogs at a time in each. So that will work out to +/- 320 hr (conservative estimate) X 10hrs . We got 2 100# propane tanks, that should be enough we can top them of again on Sat morning if needed. Then we got a prep tables with 4 people, 2 putting dog in buns 2 wrapping. From there they go into the cart that will have a large pan. 2 people there taking money serving dogs. 2 people to jump in where needed. We work on a rotating shift so no one gets burned out on doing one thing. Still workin on getting a refer truck or van to park there for the weekend. Going to talk to other vendors to mabe split the costs. Arranged for the bun supplier to have a truck parked there with product. This will also help out the burger guy. Will have a condiment bar with mustard onions ketchup and maybe relish for them to dress their own dogs.(depending on what the HD will let us get away with) Will also have drinks Coke will be on site and deliver to booth as needed, also have a couple pallets of water from a local water company that will take back what we don’t use. We have a couple of stock tanks that will hold 3to400 16oz bottles easy. Have already arranged for a ice supply company to be there to supply all vendors. This is a production event nothing fancy. I won’t be taking credit cards the ATM truck will be there. I have been involved with events before where they had 360000 people over 3 days before. I just got to make sure that I got enough food to last, because if you run out of food you don’t get your $1000 deposit back. What you think? See any flaws?
Yea it all a guess on what to expect, but with the unemployment rate at over 11% in our area, a free event now, that used to have a gate fee, and a reasonably priced alternative to feed a family of 4 for around $20. I know what its like out here, they (vendors) might be beggin to come in, but vendors are limited to county residence only (licenced insured & legit). Not like some events where I have seen where they let home owners bring there BBQ grills down and sell burgers and dogs. They are trying to keep the money at home to try to help the locals that have taken a beating and seen alot of the money from the energy industry leave town with the big oil/energy companys.
Input needed on planning LARGE event
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