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Home › Forums › Restaurant Professionals Forum › Restaurant Professionals Forum › Concession business start up

This topic contains 11 replies, has 0 voices, and was last updated by snowangelhp snowangelhp 10 years, 7 months ago.

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  • September 18, 2010 at 5:28 pm #2766607
    CoolScoops
    CoolScoops
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    I figure I would chime in my $.02
    My wife and kids started out 8 years ago with just hard ice cream and store bought cones.   We did alright our first time out and realized areas where we needed to improve, made some changes (ex: making our waffle cones fresh on site ) and now we are doing so well that I recently bought a small ice cream shop for a little year round business 🙂
     
    Something to consider with your capital is that most events want you to prepay decent sized deposits months before the actual event.    This can really tie up the capital.
     
    We do strictly ice cream, cake cones and fresh made waffle cones, and floats, and then this year to capture a bit of morning traffic added fresh made waffles.

    One suggestion on figuring out what to sell?
    Contact a large event in your area that you would be interested in selling at, see if there is a product that they are looking to have, or perhaps a vendor that is not returning for some reason ( hopefully not poor sales )
    We do all of our events under canopies…( this allowed us to snag some indoor shows that could not handle trailers.
    IF your HD offers an annual permit go that route for sure.

    Shaved Ice is nice…great markup, easy set up, and does awesome on those hot summer days
     

  • September 18, 2010 at 5:28 pm #2766355
    bartl
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    Here is my specific situation. I am a mother, former Social Worker, now stay at home mom. I am looking to supplement my families income a bit. So not looking to get rich and not looking to replace a full time income.

    I wonder how many people here will understand the humor in the following: You will find that operating a food cart will pay much better and be much less work than being a social worker.
     
    Adding to give some useful info: I see you are operating out of Ohio. One thing you have going in your favor is that, as a former social worker, you (theoretically) have far greater skills in navigating bureaucracies than most (hell, once you start, you might be able to make another income helping other mobile food sellers get through health department red tape; I’ll bet a bunch of people here would hire you in a second). I notice that, in all this, there has been no discussion about health department requirements. Here’s the Cincinnati mobile food licensing application (along with regs):
    http://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/health/downloads/health_pdf39560.pdf http://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/health/downloads/health_pdf39560.pdf
     
    Bart

  • September 18, 2010 at 5:28 pm #2766638
    BillyB
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    Hi HP and welcome, We have gal on this site that does mini donuts from a donut machine. She started doing Ice cream and then bought a used machine, she does a great business at a Flee market. How could you go wrong with hot dough, cinnamon and sugar. I think you should figure out  your menu, your set up will follow. The HD may have different requirements for different menu items…………….take care….Bill

  • September 18, 2010 at 5:28 pm #2766656
    snowangelhp
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    Hello everyone,
    I have been reading this forum for hours and have taken in a wealth of information. I am hoping that a few kind folks might take a few moments to help a newbie in the business out.
     
    Here is my specific situation. I am a mother, former Social Worker, now stay at home mom. I am looking to supplement my families income a bit. So not looking to get rich and not looking to replace a full time income. I happen to stumble into the concession concept by working a shaved ice stand at a few festivals this past summer and absolutely loved the festival concession environment.
     
    Here is where I need help. I have 5-12K start up. I have a newer 6*10 trailer to move equipment, wouldn’t want to convert the trailer to a concession trailer.
     
    I am struggling with whether to do a tent stand or trailer stand at festivals, shows, fairs etc.  Also, with what food to serve. I know shaved ice made a killing when I did it but I am thinking something other than shaved ice.
     
    I know from reading that there is a ton of experienced professionals and I am hoping that some of you would help a newbie out!! [:)]
     
    Lastly, how do you decide which festivals to do and what do you do during the winter months?
     
    I greatly appreciate any input!!  Thanks so much, HP

  • September 18, 2010 at 5:28 pm #2766408
    snowangelhp
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    I love that you ended your post with a positive!! I am really excited about this!  The couple events I did with the shaved ice machine were awesome. I loved talking with everyone, interacting with everyone etc. Hard work doesn’t scare me….:)
     
    The thing I am most scared about is losing money, paying for a festival and totally flopping $$ wise…eeeks.
    Anyhow, thanks for the input.  Love to hear success stories like yours! Oh and I actually have a shaved ice machine from the shaved ice place you mention!
     
    Thanks again and best of luck with your new trailer—that’s awesome! HP

  • September 18, 2010 at 5:28 pm #2766437
    JodyP
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    We started several years ago with a 10’ x 10’ canopy, folding tables, coolers and a large charcoal grill. We served hot dogs and hamburgers with the fixings. Most of the events we did where small ones costing $75 / $100. For the most part we did fairly well. The key to success is to try and book events close together so that you won’t have much waste. Our start up cost was only the event cost, cost of the grill and the supplies.
    The one thing to remember is that it is going to take a little time to decide what events to do and which ones to pass on. Also keep in mind the earlier you apply for an event the better chance you will have to lock in a spot for your type of concessions. Some events are good at not allowing duplication of food items whereas others don’t care. Some events will only allow food booths.
    We purchased a new 7’ x 14’ concession trailer this summer. We have it set up to serve shaved ice, lemon shake-ups and frozen desserts for warm weather festivals and are going to set it up with hot cider, hot chocolate and apple fritters for cool weather festival. We are already booking for spring festivals and have already made some contacts for next fall. We will also add some type of food items foe next years in town festivals.
    For our shaved ice we purchased a complete package from 1-800-SHAVEDICE. It comes with enough supplies to get you through several festivals. Also at festivals we only serve one size of the shaved ice and lemon shake-up.
    Good luck, this is a fun and exciting business.  

  • September 18, 2010 at 5:28 pm #2766438
    snowangelhp
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    Awesome Thanks! Great suggestions…will certainly use them!  Thanks again, HP

  • September 18, 2010 at 5:28 pm #2766254
    snowangelhp
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    Hey Bart,
    LOL thanks. As a matter of fact, I already have the regulations on hand! As for Social Work, I am not saying that the pay is better the work yes!! I am a child abuse investigator, so selling people food is by far way better then taking babies from their homes!!! 🙂  Heck, I am sure I can find someway to really put my Master’s degree to work in the concession business! ha.
    Oh and yes, red tape is my favorite…..
     
    thanks hp
     

  • September 18, 2010 at 5:28 pm #2766526
    CoolScoops
    CoolScoops
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    We have had good experiences with winter events selling ice cream.
     
    If you end up doing ice cream, let me make a few suggestions.
        1)  Get your dipping cabinet put onto casters. 
        2)  We use a 12 Hole Cabinet but only offer at a max 10 Flavors.
        3)  I would not carry fat free, or NSA flavors.  You will get asked a couple times a day but not enough that you would sell enough to justify.
        4) If you are at a super busy event consider not “displaying” your ice cream and just post your flavors.  This speeds up considerably the serving process.

    Best of luck!

  • September 18, 2010 at 5:28 pm #2766588
    snowangelhp
    snowangelhp
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    Cool scoops, thanks for the reply! Very insightful and helpful. I love that you now have a little business year round, that concept is very appealing to me. That would be my ideal outcome to have this turn into a little family run business. Some of my best childhood memories come from working/playing at my parents family owned business. Congratulations on the success!
     
    Okay back on topic–I set aside roughly 7K for equipment and another 5K for deposits for the events.  I am starting to see that I am probably not going to need all 7K for the equipment though, especially if I buy it used! 
     
    Did your ice cream sales indoors still do well in the winter? That is one of my concerns.
     
    Thanks again and congrats on the success. I love hearing stories like these. 
     
     

  • September 18, 2010 at 5:28 pm #2765821
    cateringtrailersmike
    cateringtrailersmike
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    Be really careful with booking events. Make sure that there is an agreed limit on the number of concession caterers, or you may find far too many there – also in working out what to pay, halve whatever the event organiser says the visitors will be. Regards winter – dont know if you have the same thing in the US, but car boot sales can be a stable (if short trading hours) winter income.

  • September 23, 2010 at 4:41 am #712975
    snowangelhp
    snowangelhp
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    Concession business start up, please chime in!

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