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Home › Forums › Miscellaneous Forums › Miscellaneous – Food Related › ‘Cloned Livestock Poised…’

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  • January 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm #2409100
    PapaJoe8
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    The ofspring of a clowned cow just won a prize at the Fort Wort Fat Stock Show. There was some to do over that. That cow had two parents and IMHO is just a cow.
    Joe

  • January 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm #2409101
    matilda
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    ‘Is your steak cut from a cloned steer?’

    "The federal government has cleared cloned meat and dairy products for human consumption, but it could be a tough sell if consumer reaction in the Upstate is any indication."

    The rest of the story: http://greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080120/NEWS01/801200334

  • January 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm #2409102
    PapaJoe8
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    Hey Ash, what about that neon green relish for hot dogs? You could add a bit of pork.

    Ales, yep… you gota do the glands! Real hard work being a groomer. You need to work as a bather 1st. Kinda like being a su chef. I owned a grooming/pet store for many years. We had folks bring their dogs in just for a bath and… to have the gland expressed. Vets will do that also, but you got a bath thrown in for less $$ at my place.

    About the dogs, all but a few breeds were developed only a few houndred years ago, by…. guess who. Lotsa inbreeding was done to develop those breeds.
    Joe
    Joe

  • January 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm #2409103
    Ashphalt
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    "Glowing Pig Passes Genes to Piglets"

    http://www.boston.com/news/science/articles/2008/01/09/glowing_pig_passes_genes_to_piglets/

    I think fluorescent green pigs would be a boon the the Kosher meat industry.

  • January 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm #2409104
    PapaJoe8
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    Before we messed with em, dogs were wolves.
    Joe

  • January 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm #2409105
    matilda
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    It’s one of those things that makes you go, what in the world were they thinking when they discovered that…sorta like the people who fold their eyelids inside out and junk like that. What’d dogs do before this great discovery?

  • January 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm #2409106
    aleswench
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    [/quote]
    A**l Glands probably need squeezing…..not to be graphic….My groomer does it for Gigi.
    [/quote]

    Oh great – I’m looking into becoming a groomer…I have to squeeze a dogs butt sack?

    [xx(]

    Not to change the subject, personally I truly don’t feel like it’s "nice to mess with mother nature"….Sue

  • January 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm #2409107
    skylar0ne
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    Already asked the vet about this, and he said it’s the anal gland thing. Both my dogs go to the vet regularly, and neither of them have worms OR fleas. The male drags his butt, but the female does not. He was doing this over the weekend, and I remarked to hubby as he got a paper towel, "I bet you never in your wildest dreams imagined you’d be doing that someday.."

  • January 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm #2409108
    jmckee
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    I read the title of this thread and thought it was going to be something about cattle bred to have better manners.

  • January 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm #2409109
    MiamiDon
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    quote:

    Originally posted by roossy90

    quote:

    Originally posted by PapaJoe8

    Sky, ask your vet about that, could be tape worms?
    Joe


    A**l Glands probably need squeezing…..not to be graphic….My groomer does it for Gigi.

    Ohhhhh – I wasn’t going to go there, but you are quite right.

  • January 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm #2409110
    PapaJoe8
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    All the pet Syrian hamsters in the U.S up until the 70s ( millions of em ) came from a single female and her litter. We have some different species now. I raised the Russian dwarfs for a while, real cute and gentel.
    Joe

  • January 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm #2409111
    tmiles
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    Lack of genetic variation can be a problem. I have had an inbreeding problem,myself, in my sheep flock. With that in mind it is far from as simple as the folks who coined the term "Frankinfood" would have you think. Using 20 cloned bulls in 20 different herds may not be all that different than using one bull in the same 20 herds via artificial insemination (AI). Both methods do reduce genetic diversity, but they also increase exposure to the best genes.
    I have used AI on cows. It is easy and cheap. AI is difficult in sheep. Depending on how the research process works out, I may be able to use a top quality cloned ram on my ewes a few years down the road. The answer is far from clear, though. For reasons not fully understood, cloned sheep often don’t live as long. I’d be interested to see how the offspring of a cloned ram do in research flocks, before I buy a cloned ram myself.
    As far as lack of genetic variation goes, it is not always bad. Myron Gordon, the cancer research pioneer, used inbred fish in his research. A line of the common swordtail aquarium fish that he started many years ago is in it’s 80th generation of brother sister matings at a Texas genetic stock center.

  • January 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm #2409112
    PapaJoe8
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    Ahh, yep Roossy, I forgot about those little buggers. That’s usually not a problem for larger breeds though. I’s a must do for many smaller breeds. My dog does the drag sometimes and I get him a worm shot. Those tape worms are easy to get. Just eat a flea.

    Ok, the big question… do cloned cows have altered genes?
    Joe

  • January 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm #2409113
    roossy90
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    quote:

    Originally posted by PapaJoe8

    Sky, ask your vet about that, could be tape worms?
    Joe

    A**l Glands probably need squeezing…..not to be graphic….My groomer does it for Gigi.

  • January 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm #2409114
    PapaJoe8
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    I totaly agree that feeding cows anything but vegies is just wrong! Dogs and cats on the other hand need meat.
    Joe

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