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Home › Forums › Restaurant Professionals Forum › Restaurant Professionals Forum › Box car diner kitchen questions….

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  • June 20, 2006 at 8:22 am #2586113
    thenoob
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    ya what i was wondering is if the kitchen space is built into those O’rourkes and O’Mahoney cars.  Or is the kitchen area something you build on to it?   In that one pic def looks like a big new kitchen in it…looks like an add on.

  • June 20, 2006 at 8:22 am #2586161
    CCinNJ
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    http://www.carneytrain.com Carney’s is a hot dog/hamburger establishment in West Hollywood CA…that is an actual “boxcar” (passenger car).

    http://www.forgotten-ny.com/SLICES/subway.gold/goldens.html Golden’s Deli is one of our favorite places on Staten Island….with a subway car used…for seating.

  • June 20, 2006 at 8:22 am #2586166
    lornaschinske
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    Is the “box car” you are talking about a real single width box car or is it one of the ones that have been added on to like the O’Rourke’s?

    I’ve been on a couple of excursion trains and they are slightly wider than a school bus (a couple inches under 8 ft). The floor plan for a concession trailer kitchen would work in the case of what I would call a “real” box car (not one with add-on structures).  http://www.samshortline.com SAM Shortline has a narrow pass thru concession car (placed about in the middle of the train cars).  They sell ice cream, hot dogs, sandwiches, popcorn (we didn’t eat on the train, we ate at the Windsor in Americus).  

  • June 20, 2006 at 8:22 am #2586221
    CCinNJ
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    Here is a pic of the kitchen of O’Rourke’s in 2005.

    http://www.pbase.com/panos/orourkes_diner http://www.pbase.com/panos/orourkes_diner

    and now…

    http://www.thesebells.com/dinersORourkes.html http://www.thesebells.com/dinersORourkes.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHUVJ_Z3_gU DD&D clip

  • June 20, 2006 at 8:22 am #2586225
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    According to this article, O’Rourke’s original diner in Middletown, CT, (before it burned) was a boxcar diner. “O’Rourke’s was far more than just a diner, even by east coast standards. A true boxcar, it sat about 30 feet above the train tracks it presumably rolled into town on in 1946 or so.”   http://mediaboy.livejournal.com/173161.html http://mediaboy.livejournal.com/173161.html
     
    I am sure there are a number of people on Roadfood (including the Sterns) who had been there and could describe his kitchen arrangement and size for you.

  • June 20, 2006 at 8:22 am #2586226
    CCinNJ
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    http://www.ronsaari.com/stockImages/diners/bendixExt.php Bendix is the boxcar/streamline art deco  style diner.

    http://www.theticktockdiner.com Tick Tock   as well.

    There are plenty of examples of pics on the Bendix link.

  • June 20, 2006 at 8:22 am #2586228
    BillyB
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    http://www.azrymuseum.org/Projects/Dining_Car/Dining_Car.htm Dining Car Project of the Arizona Railway Museum  Good luck….

  • June 20, 2006 at 8:22 am #2586229
    thenoob
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    hmmmm interesting.

    Ive been gathering all the info i can but all photos I can find are all just the customer eating area and not the kitchen setups

  • June 20, 2006 at 8:22 am #2586232
    lornaschinske
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    Only boxcar diner that I have seen up close is at the http://www.choochoo.com Chattanooga ChooChoo . I believe the restaurant’s main kitchen prepares everything and only final prep is done on board in an adjoining car.

    http://images.google.com/images?q=Train%20diner&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi Train diner images on Google

  • June 20, 2006 at 8:22 am #2586233
    Walleye
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    What in the world is a box car diner?

  • June 20, 2006 at 8:22 am #2586236
    thenoob
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    hi guys

        been a successful hot dog vendor for a few years, looking to make the jump and purchase a old box car diner.  The one thing I cant understaND during my research is where is the kitchen located??

       I see in alot of pics, that there are swinging doors behind the bar.  I’m guessing that is where the kitchen would be located?  does anybody have any idea as to size of a box car diner kitchen and what kind of setups you could do in there?

    any info at all would be great

    thx

  • June 20, 2006 at 8:22 am #2585826
    CCinNJ
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    I will send you that one so I do not have to hear any s^*t from anyone else! Not that I mind…but I go there at all hours.

  • June 20, 2006 at 8:22 am #2585831
    Dr of BBQ
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    Also on that same video list is
    White Manna Hamburgers [/h1] and someone owes us a field report from the

    White Manna![/h1] LOL

  • June 20, 2006 at 8:22 am #2586087
    CCinNJ
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    http://dinerman.wordpress.com/2009/02/24/jerry-omahony-dining-cars Jerry O’Mahony was a native of…Bayonne NJ. [:o)]

    There is plenty of interest on Diner history topics etc. but many Diner enthusiasts usually focus on the interior (not including BOH) and exterior.

    You can research http://www.nps.gov/nr National Register of Historic Places for some detailed  nuts & bolts history on builds restoration/modification etc.

    Here is an example….

    http://www.nps.gov/nr/feature/weekly_features/CentralDiner.pdf http://www.nps.gov/nr/feature/weekly_features/CentralDiner.pdf

    O’Rourkes was through Mountain View Diner Company. Most of the building/designing  companies went out of business when other types of restaurants starting hitting the scene in the 50s. Sad. Treasures with  charm and character.

    http://www.sec.state.ma.us/mhc/mhcpdf/sectione.pdf http://www.sec.state.ma.us/mhc/mhcpdf/sectione.pdf

  • June 20, 2006 at 8:22 am #2585832
    Dr of BBQ
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    CC is right and you don’t see the cook BSing with the customers do you. He is far to busy.
    Neat video

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