doc, listen, i fully agree with everything youve said and appreciate all the input. the menu is # 1 most important.  i was thinking that i might not want to unveil a menu just yet but maybe i shouldve said this. i was looking for opinions about the different types of equipment available to me and i guess i got what i was asking for in different opinions all of which go right back to my menu. didnt mean to offend or hurt any feelings. i certainly can be a sarcastic crotchety old basta%3 sometimes and maybe some dont know how to take some comments i may make but rest assured, im sincere about this venture and apologetic incase ive offended you guys. youre right about this being different animal. from now ill project an image and disclose a menu frame so everone trying to help will have info needed to give an opinion. i hope to meet you all in person someday and on good and friendly terms.