I use the Chefmate chili with fine chopped beans beef. I can not believe how much the customers love it.I thought I made a mistake when I bought 6- 10 lb cans ,but when I forgot it at home one day it and bought the all beef hormel,Customers bitched like crazy. Billy is right. Why screw with what works. Its not like they did not spend millions profecting it before it hit the shelf.Screw the homemade. Everyone thinks there’s is the best.Chefmate gets the nod. Good stuff cheap.