Wow Saps: are your National Championships skewed toward showing Mich and OSU as greats and PSU as not or what.
First, Michigan played bowl games way before they were Big Ten, and were awarded “National Championships” before Penn State was allowed by their school to participate in post-season games and before there was any real heirarchy for end of season awards. So, the same rules can apply. You seemed to skip that.
Considering the mess of choosing the Div 1A National champion with a myriad of polls and association titles handed out each year, it’s hard to credit anything prior to 1950 – because that is the point the NCAA created its concensus National Champion as the “true” National Champion(s) as seen by the NCAA, and taking into consideration that there is a heirarchy in the polls – something not really acknowledged before 1950. Even then, the next 17 years saw National Champions being chosen before the bowl games – but, it is what it is. And 1950 is the start of the “concensus” which we come to quickly realize, wasn’t alway a concensus.
OSU 6 (1954, 1957, 1961, 1968, 1970, 2002)
PSU 2 (1982, 1986)
Mich 1 (1997)
Of those 6 for OSU, they weren’t the only concensus of the year 4 times. Of those 4 times, only once did they hold the AP. So, they really only garnered 3 outright championships (1954, 1968, 2002). The three others they shared, they weren’t the AP pick.
Officially, the NCAA recognizes a bunch of championships along the way from the 1869. All included, the numbers are:
But to put those numbers into a historical (and relative) perspective, one has to keep in mind that Princeton owns 28 Championships and Yale owns 27, Harvard 12. Even Dartmouth and Washington & Jefferson have one of these championships.
So, suffice to say, we need to, in the least, start with 1950 to give a little perspective and stick to NCAA concensus champs – otherwise, we’ll never settle on even ground.
When you do that, you need to accept that Notre Dame has 5 of these concensus championships, but can take away 1964, when Alabama was also a concensus champion and took both the AP and UPI polls. Leaving: 1966, 1973, 1977, 1988 for ND.