Jimeats ===Well at least they didn’t come out purple ===

Yeah I remember seeing that photo somewhere. The regional differences in this meat pie is why I posted this thread/recipe.
What is interesting is that the best piroskis I ever had was in Oahu, HA., at a little food stand called Rada’s Russian Piroskis. I ate them all the time 30 years ago in the navy. Last year I went back to the island and was eagerly anticipating going back to the place.
Damn….she was closed for vacation!!! [:(][:(]

I was seriously considering using a pizza dough, even the pre-made store bought brands. I feel that there was a little sweetness to the dough as I remembered it and as a cook, I knew that I can make a yeast dough. The recipe I used had a 1/2 cup in it with four cups flour.
You are also correct that water can affect the outside, but it is best to do this for a crispy crust. This wasn’t what I was looking for.

007jb’s dough recipe is very close to the one I used, but there was no baking powder/soda, I knew yeast was essential. I like the variation and ingredients for the filling.

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