They are in the close out bin at my local WalMart. They are a little shop worn, but once they are used once or twice, they will look the same as if they had started out perfect. The 2 paks were 19.99 (I think?), and are now $2. Make your own beer kits are on closeout too, but the discount is not nearly as steep as with those copper plated, stainless steel mule cups. I didn’t buy any.