dbrandon, actually we never knew what tht dog was, every vet we took her to in her almost 17 years with us, had a different version of what they thought she was. When we bought her for $15 in a pet shop, they told us she was a mix of standard poodle and collie. She loved water, and had enough hair for two dogs. She shed that hair like a champ. We never did figure out which part was the poodle. And she talked. We honestly believe that what she was, was a person in a dog suit.