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John’s is a very good restaurant. You just have to go to Niki’s West on Finley near the Farmers Market. It is a meat and three that offers eight or nine meats and around fifteen or more veggie’s. In addition, they have a very good menu. They also have a good country breakfast.
A few blocks down Finley is The Smokehouse which is another good restaurant.
The Fish Market on southside. Fresh seafood trucked and flown in daily. Don’t miss this place.
A fifteen minute drive south to Bessemer will take you to The Bright Star. Been there since 1907 and just keeps getting better. They have an arrangement with a restaurant in New Orleans in which they exchange Chef’s a couple of times a year. My Mother was a regular here for eighty two years.
I have never been disappointed at any of these places, and I’m not easy. (at least when it comes to food)
Since you mentioned it, Ort. Carlton., these are all Greek owned and operated and I can gain five pounds just driving by any of these and the ones that you referred to. I had an office straight across the street from Ted’s and it was an almost daily meeting place.
All of the above are in the moderate price range. I hope y’all enjoy your trips here and I’m glad I happened to find this web-site.