Yep, Sams finally did it to me too, they are no longer gonna carry my Bests Kosher. They will have Nathans beef 1/4 lb. by the case that will be even cheaper, and have better name recognition, but they are not Kosher. The Bests Kosher hold up great all day long in a little water, and seem to be a little firmer. I had one of the Nathans and it was good, though I could see how they might get mushy. But then again, it could have been the method of cooking by the high school kid behind the counter. What can anyone tell me about the differences?